April 8, 2026

THE DEBRIEF #25 War Crimes hosted by Zero Limits Podcast Matty Morris with The Saint Scojo Ft Call ins Big Chocky, Keegan Locke and Zac Rolfe

THE DEBRIEF #25 War Crimes hosted by Zero Limits Podcast Matty Morris with The Saint Scojo Ft Call ins Big Chocky, Keegan Locke and Zac Rolfe

Today's debrief Zero Limits Podcast host Matty Morris chat with Scojo Ft Call ins Big Chocky, Keegan Locke and Zac Rolfe. This debrief focussing on the recent Ben Roberts Smith VC MG arrest. These debriefs we touch base with a previous guest and check in on their lives and talk about anything and everything. Send us a text however note we cannot reply through these means. Please message the instagram or email if you are wanting a response. Support the show Website - www.zerolimitspodca...

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Today's debrief Zero Limits Podcast host Matty Morris chat with Scojo Ft Call ins Big Chocky, Keegan Locke and Zac Rolfe.

This debrief focussing on the recent Ben Roberts Smith VC MG arrest.

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It's time for the Zero Limits Podcast, hosted by an Australian veteran.

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Chatting with high-charging humans with hectic stories from around the world.

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We'll give you the motivation to take on whatever life throws at you in the kick to complete any goal you set your mind to.

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Let's go.

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Um I can't take you, brother.

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Zero limits listeners.

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Debrief.

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Now, last debrief I did was with Scojo and Big Chock.

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Mr.

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Chocolate.

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The sexy chocolate.

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You've just heard him.

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Scojo is back for a debrief.

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G'day, gents.

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How's the meals, gents?

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How's the meals?

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Now, since the last debrief we spoke about the Bondi massacre.

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Since then, a lot has happened.

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Iran, for one.

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Fuel prices absolutely nuts.

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Government failing as per usual.

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I just massacred the toilet downstairs with that Thai food about half an hour ago.

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Sorry, Matty.

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A massacre at Frost Drive in Mayfield.

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And obviously, just recently, within the last twenty-four hours, Ben Roberts Smith has been arrested.

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And the way he was arrested was disgusting.

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The way media how media was there, another worrying aspect and signs of its being shown to be, I guess, broken from the start already.

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AFP, no doubt, tipped off media, which is a breach of OPSEC in our worlds.

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But as we know, Ben's in this position because of people breached OPSEC and spoke to the media.

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And they're still in.

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So we'll definitely talk about that.

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But as I said in the last 24 hours, Australia's highest level achieving, I guess, soldier, VCMG, arrested for potential alleged uh war crimes, uh, five counts of murder, I think, two personal and three orders, I think.

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Stacking bodies.

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Yeah.

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We've spoken about on other podcasts, especially with uh, you know, former Brady SSR operator Amish McLaughlin.

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Mm-hmm.

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Spoke about on his podcast and a few other ones I've I've mentioned the cases, especially with Declan Redman.

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Yeah, Deck.

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Dan Fortune.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, especially Dan Fortune, Andy White, uh Breno, and uh a bunch of others.

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And basically, they've all given their views on on things and how the unit's shaped and what's happened overseas, and now we're starting to see it unfold.

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And I guess this is this is the the troubling part because this is this is the second time occurring, first time occurring.

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Uh Schultz he was charged, spent a few days in prison, now out waiting for a trial, which is gonna happen finally, three years after the first, you know, I guess, of him getting called called in, three years later, maybe look, it's still yeah, we're keep kicking the can down the road because every time the prosecution realizes there's more and more to this stuff in closed court where they can't talk about how you're gonna fucking clear the jury 12 random punters from the eastern suburbs of Sydney, a predominantly Jewish area, noting we just had a terrorist attack there.

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I don't think no matter what happens in the courtroom, they're gonna fucking, you know, side with the uh the prosecution on this one.

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But how the fuck are they gonna give top secret clearances and clear all these random punters to top secret for closed court?

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Most of this stuff's gonna happen in close court because it's all to do with signals intelligence.

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Exactly.

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Shout out to the signals intelligence people in the world, most important in every fucking scenario, it seems.

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Yeah, no, exactly right.

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And obviously, we've just seen the prime minister come out and he's like, I I I just can't say anything right now, can't comment.

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I grew up in Housing Commission, so you've got to respect me.

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I make so much money.

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He's a Muppet.

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He hasn't got the nuts to stand up there and go, you know what?

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We're gonna figure this out.

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Not figure this out, this is this is gonna be run by the courts, through the courts, we're gonna make sure that it's there's a just ending to this and done the right way.

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But poor start again, media tipped off at the airport.

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Tipped off the city.

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AFP doing the arrest at the airport, landing in Sydney with his two daughters and his missus.

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On school holidays?

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On school ho holidays can't for 15-year-old girls and the AFP pride themselves on looking after veterans and looking after their families, yet they're quick to arrest this guy.

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He is no threat to no one, no threat of running overseas, which you know we He went to Bali, we saw him in the jacuzzi with a couple of hitters and and what he came straight back.

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He's not hiding from that's it.

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It could have been just a call his lawyer, we're coming to get him.

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Let's wait till he gets home, we're gonna pick him up, or come in.

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Yeah, simple.

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He's not running.

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They did that for me on my last arrest.

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Yeah, which we'll we which we'll definitely talk about because I think there's a lot of with uh Scott Jones, Scojo, aka the Saint on uh Instagram.

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A lot of people have seen his content and there's still a lot of gaps in between.

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A lot of people are like, hmm, what's going on there?

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And I'm happy to talk about.

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I can't talk about everything, as you know, Maddie.

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I've signed some and people think that I don't do podcasts anymore because of some little twerp journalist having a sook.

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I don't do podcasts anymore because I spent three years going through not to the level of Schul's E NRS, but I was certainly involved in a lot of this stuff, and I was officially cleared in 2023, went to the AFP headquarters and signed a lot of documents that I wouldn't talk about it.

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But the AFP uh gave all my stuff back and cleared me officially in writing to my lawyers, email, play on referee, fucking let's go.

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Game on.

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Game on.

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So that's why I haven't been doing many potties.

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Also, they deleted all my podcasts off the fucking socials.

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But we're here today to talk about Bed Tom Warriors.

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Shout out to bedtime warriors.

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But I think there's an aspect.

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If you read all the anti-BRS comments in every comment section right now online, the ones that they actually let you say comments because they know they're gonna get roasted.

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Anyone that speaks ill of RS or the soldiers in general, I think it's time we answer the questions that the left have.

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And at the end of the day, Maddie, we're journalists, whether we like it or not.

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Podcasting is journalism.

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It is.

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So we're protected as journalists and preserving history, we're preserving military history, and there's an important part to this.

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So we we're gonna crack straight into it.

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So what I don't think a lot of people understand is the left, the left's argument and the journalist's argument, and everyone's argument online against RS is yeah, but his own teammates said that he did it.

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So why don't we talk about these teammates?

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Okay, so this is where I guess I say, How did we get here?

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Well, story time.

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Strap yourself in, Maddie.

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It's gonna be a long one.

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And I can only speak from my perspective, and I feel like as a journalist now, as a podcaster, as an influencer, I can do investigative journalism, much like some of these YouTube fuckwits that we hate.

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Um, there's there's no difference between them and me.

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Yep, I haven't gone to university and done agree, but I'm interested in military history.

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I'm introduced interested in how this all took place and how we can stop it happening again.

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And a disclaimer: a lot of people say you're just fucking blind, biased, looking after your mate.

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Ben is not a good mate of mine.

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He provided a lot of guidance in my early career, um, a lot of um almost mentorship and tutelage and chats that we'd had, but nothing too hectic, and many, many people did that.

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But I'm more uh I did an appointment with two squadron, I did an appointment with e-Troop.

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I was in Afghanistan with them.

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We did a lot of joint jobs together, and I'm still friends with some of those guys, but to be honest, we fucking hated each other, and everyone knows that.

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A lot of your podcasts have said that there was fucking fights, there was brawls, there was fucking all sorts of chaos.

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So it's not like I'm blindly sticking up for my platoon or my mates, and that's probably pretty important.

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So I actually want the journalist to listen to this and what we have to say because it might answer some of your questions, and you're just gonna keep going back to the point.

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Well, no, well, his own mate said he did this.

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So it clearly happened.

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Let's talk about what his mates said.

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So let's go through it.

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So during the defamation case, I was a little bit involved in that.

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I was down there in Sydney for most of it, and I'm probably one of the few people that listened to almost every single testimony of every single witness.

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And not many people can say that.

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Most people can just say they read an article at the end of the day that said person one said this today.

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The media, channel nine, ABC, the people that want to see Ben burn and are only interested in the content behind that article, clearly they've got bias towards putting him away if he's suing channel nine.

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So then we would post online on our socials about well, what actually was said today and some of the things that were missed, and people will go, what?

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Fucking what?

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But if you look at the court transcripts, it's all available in federal court if you want to look at it, it's all there.

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So let's go from the top.

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Ben's enemies.

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Let's start with person one.

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Person one, clearly one of the most reliable witnesses to give in such an uh glorious title in the defamation case when there was hundreds of witnesses.

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Person one was removed from the troop, and this is a common story throughout all of these people that we're about to name, was removed from the troop for being a shit cunt.

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He almost got the patrol killed.

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A spotter comes walking along an ambush, I think it was 2007, they're up in the high ground, they're in an OP.

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Old mate, fucking Taliban, comes walking straight across the front of the OP.

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And number person one doesn't fire.

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And then that leads the vulnerability to the rear and side flank because old mate didn't pull the trigger on him and do his job.

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He put the uh troop or patrol, I don't know what they call it, fucking SAS.

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We fucking call it something else because we're better, but um he he he put the patrol at risk.

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So Matt Locke, the then I think they call it a patrol commander, PC.

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Yep, PC.

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He had to go and climb a cliff with RS, RS on me, climb this cliff, we're gonna kill this cunt.

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They killed the cunt, and Matt Locke got a medal of gallantry for that action.

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He was never if you look at the photos of Matt Locke getting his MG, he's not happy about it.

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He's got a look on his face, like, I shouldn't be getting this if person one had done his fucking job.

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Person one admitted during cross-examination he was a shit soldier.

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He was a shit cunt.

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He couldn't drive for shit.

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Ben used to fucking slap him over the back of the head and bully him because he was shit.

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Matt Locke, after their deployment, threatened to throw him through the window of the pub.

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Everyone knows this in Perth.

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These stories came out in the troll.

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You can check for yourself.

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Person one admitted he was a shit soldier.

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He's still a serving soldier in the regiment, and he's probably one of the 90 dudes now deployed to AMAB to fight Iran.

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Go figure.

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And when he got he got posted back into the unit after all this shit had happened, his new patrol gave him a welcoming present, a bottle of lubricant, because he forgot to bring lubricant on a job and the machine gun um failed to fire multiple times.

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Again, putting his patrol in danger.

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Shit cunt.

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There's your best witness.

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There's your best witness.

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Let's talk about person four.

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When Ben Robert Smith assaulted T-Zack, two teams, one team, Hamish McLaughlin's podcast spilled it out perfectly.

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One team on the right flank with Hamish is pinned down.

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And that their patrol commander can't do anything.

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He's on the radar board.

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He's like, I want to fucking assault forward, but I can't do anything.

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We're gonna fucking die if we stand up.

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We're in a dry creek bed.

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Another team in the middle, ran by I don't know, his person, uh his his number.

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Um, but that fella, absolute weapon, he was British SAS, our SAS, and did a uh a second to DevGrew, SEAL Team 6, did jobs with them, hard cunt.

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He decided when the rounds were going, something needed to be done.

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He said, Righto Boys on me.

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He stepped over a small mud wall and started moving forward.

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RS went to the left of a compound, he went to the right.

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He got a Star Gallantry, RS got a Victoria Cross, and person 14 correction, person number seven was at the back.

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He's the the team leader of the rear team facing the rear.

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And he said, Boys, I'll just stay here and face the rear.

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And in federal court, he said, This is one of the main witnesses, this is the dude that went on 60 minutes and broke OPSEC, ruined everything for the SS, destroyed their reputation just to get RS.

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Person seven said in the trial, and I know it word for word because someone turned it into a dance music EDM track, and it's basically all the boys' ringtones.

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He said, Mr.

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Moses, Ben's lawyer, during cross-examination, I was not brave enough to do what Ben did.

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I was not brave enough.

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Ben's biggest hater said he didn't have the fucking balls and the spine to stand up and assault forward and help Ben's team out when they went forward and went up the middle of the road in T-Zack.

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They killed a hundred people that day.

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You know how many people they killed at the back?

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Fucking nothing.

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They were look they were fucking cowards, essentially.

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Like, what what do you want?

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Like he said it himself.

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I wasn't brave enough to do it.

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I didn't do it.

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Then years later, 2012, he went to they went to T-Zac again.

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Hamish McLaughlin talked about in his podcast.

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He said, we said, well, what was different between 2010 in T-Zac and 2012 when you went back?

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The only difference was they had a graveyard there with a hundred fucking new new new gravestones there because they killed 100 people that day.

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And person 7 was measuring out distances where and and trying to disprove on the job on the ground Aris's citation.

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That's how much he hates him.

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Instead of pulling security, instead of doing the job that they're there to do, he was pacing out between machine gun positions that Ben had assaulted, knowing the route that he took all the way up the main street to the mosque.

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He was he admitted it in the in the troll, he was pacing it out.

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And he's like, Well, I paced it out.

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It wasn't 50 meters he ran through open ground, it was 42.

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Really, brother?

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Like, really, that's what you that's what that's what you give a fuck about.

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Do you want to go back to Gallipoli and fucking criticize Albert Jack's trench well, trench one was actually 10 meters, it wasn't eight meters away.

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Are you gonna criticize his VC?

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That's a fucking dog move.

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And you're the dude that went on 60 minutes.

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You're one of those blacked-out dudes on 60 minutes.

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The other dude that went on 60 minutes was person seven.

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Correction.

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So person seven was at the back, person 14.

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Now, person 14, he used to be in two squadron.

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But what happened was he had a hard drive from one of the early deployments full of all the dead people that they'd taken a photo of.

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All the people that they'd killed in battle, he'd kept on a hard drive, and he kept it at home.

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Now I'm not judging, because you know, we all like a bit of war porn, but some more than others.

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He had a biff with his missus and she left him, but she took that hard drive and she called the CO of the SASR and said, I want$50,000, or I'm gonna go to the media with this hard drive full of deployment pictures of dead people.

00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:47.360
The RSM and CO at the time had to go to her house and beg her not to fucking do that and try and talk her out of wanting$50,000 for the hard drive.

00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:50.399
So he was, you know what his punishment was, Maddie?

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He was removed from Two Squadron.

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And have a guess at where he went.

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Four Squadron.

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Oh, what a surprise.

00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:02.799
Because at 2 Commando, we didn't have a 4 Squadron.

00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:06.079
If someone was shit at 2 Commando, they got fucked off.

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They got sent to the Q store for a couple of weeks to pack all their shit up and then we never saw them again.

00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:12.880
But the SAS had a place for all these people to hide.

00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:16.960
Now I'm sure there's some good cunts in 4 Squadron, there's some real switched-on dudes neck.

00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:20.079
Breno talked about in his podcast it's some real good capabilities.

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But back then, in a lot of people's minds, it was the place for cowards to hide.

00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:27.359
And guess who was one of them?

00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:28.880
Person 14.

00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:32.240
Then you got person four.

00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:39.519
So when Ben assaulted the village of Teasak, there was one dude behind him, and that was person four.

00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:47.759
And person four's gripe with Ben about this whole situation, maybe not with Ben, but with the honors and awards system, is that he should have got a Victoria Cross as well.

00:17:48.000 --> 00:18:01.119
Now, when Albert Jacka went over the fucking trenches in Gallipoli and started bayoneting a whole bunch of Turkish soldiers stealing their kebabs and kept going, he he had dudes follow him, yeah?

00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:02.720
Well, he was the first dude over the trenches.

00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:02.880
Yeah.

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Fucking weapon.

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The dude behind him didn't get a VC.

00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:08.960
Why do you think that is, Maddie?

00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:10.880
He didn't go over the trench.

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He wasn't the first one there.

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You don't get a VC for being second.

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It's very rare that two dudes would get a VC in the same contact because it's about the one dude that basically was willing to lay down his life in front of everyone else, and he is entitled the VC for that.

00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:33.839
So person four, who it looks like alleges some of the most serious crimes against Ben.

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One of you would say he thinks he's a he's a friend of Ben, he's definitely not, but he he believes that he was entitled to a VC.

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He's he sounded that cooked on the stand, so fucked in the head, that he believes that he deserves a VC for that.

00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:52.079
So think about what I'm saying now.

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All these people, all these witnesses, these are the star witnesses.

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None of them, if you were to to show me the last five years they're reported on at that period in that in the global war on terror when we're all in Afghanistan, show me their performance reports before any of these allegations came out.

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It basically says they're all shit gunts.

00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:17.200
They're all absolutely shit gunts, and they were removed from the job that they dreamed of doing.

00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:22.319
And there's so many people listening to this potty that want to be SAS, that want to be a commando.

00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:24.559
Big dick's too small to be a commando.

00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:26.640
You have to stay in your battalion, mate.

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But the thing is, is that people can understand how much effort it takes to be an SAS operator, how much it takes to earn a Sandy Beret or a Green Beret.

00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:47.119
So to then be called a coward and removed from that troop, so people say, Well, the witnesses have nothing to gain by bringing these allegations forward.

00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:59.519
Do you think that they feel good about the fact that they were removed from their dream job career over, called a coward and fucked off to a grey roll squadron during the middle of the global war and terror?

00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:02.960
Personally, I'd be fucking ropeable.

00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:04.720
I'd want to get back at RS.

00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:12.640
I would do anything I could when the when the chance arose, whether it's five years later, ten years later, twenty years later, to get back at him.

00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:15.519
They've got fucking some skin in the game.

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They're angry, they're ropeable.

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Ben fucked them off, called them cowards, threatened to throw one of them out a fucking window at a pub through a glass window.

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They hate each other.

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So when all this stuff kicked off, here's how it went down.

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These these core group of dudes went to the RSM.

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They sat down with him and said, Ben's now out of the unit.

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He was a bully.

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He's a piece of shit.

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We should just basically cut away anything to do with him.

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And the RSM said, Well, fuck, you haven't really brought any evidence.

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You're just basically having a big old souk fest in my office.

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How about you come back when you got something?

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And they're like, Yeah, whatever.

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Then the next time they came back, that's when they started talking about war crimes.

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That's when they started bringing up more and more information about, well, on this day he did this, and I saw him do this, and I heard that he did that.

00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:10.000
And the RSM said, Well, where was this last time you came in?

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Why didn't you come in with that?

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I would have listened to that.

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But they didn't.

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He they came in with something else, which made everyone think they're colluding, they're getting together, they're trying to create and fabricate all this information, and they're all trying to stick by this one story, but no one saw every single aspect of everything.

00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:34.799
It's like one dude saw one part of a battle, the other dude saw the aftermath.

00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:38.400
There's no solid one person that was there for every everything.

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And I forget his person number, but I'm sure they'll be able to find it in the in the trial process that's going to come up.

00:21:44.960 --> 00:22:05.839
One dude sat down with one of these vulnerable cooked SAS wit witnesses in his married patch, I think they were saying in the married patch near the base, and fed him beers for hours and hours on end, knowing he wasn't mentally well, trying To get any resemblance of a story about RS out of him, and then went straight to the media with it.

00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:07.440
Straight to the RSM.

00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:09.039
So, what did the RSM do?

00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:10.160
Well, he told Sokos.

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Sokos said, Well, fuck, something might have gone on.

00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:13.599
Send me a letter.

00:22:13.680 --> 00:22:15.119
You've heard about this in your podcast.

00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:16.720
Some people wrote letters.

00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:25.200
Then what happened from there was we were sitting at two commando and we were sitting, the Afghan war's ended, and we're back doing training.

00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:26.880
I'm in Charlie Company in two commando.

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And I remember vividly we're sitting in the platoon office, and the platoon points were like, Today, boys, we're going on the range, we're doing a shoot at five meters, we're going to practice these weapon drills, now drills, whatever we're doing.

00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:45.599
The Bravo, the platoon sergeant said, Boys, also, if you don't want to do that, you've got the opportunity.

00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:52.799
There is a lady sitting up at uh Sotek then or SOO where we do all our training, and she's got an office there.

00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:57.839
And it's her job to investigate any allegations of wrongdoing from Afghanistan.

00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:11.440
And we thought they're talking about like drinking on ops, getting pissed, Skojo being absolutely fucking maggot in the skiff or whatever, standard rims on a fucking normal work day, having a skiff party, which you obviously shouldn't do.

00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:14.000
No dramas were on ops, things happen.

00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:18.240
But then it was like, no, this is about war crimes.

00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:24.400
This is about anyone who was seen like executing prisoners or or fucking shooting at random uh civilians.

00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:28.720
And first of all, every single person we killed over there was a civilian.

00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:30.000
Every single person.

00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:32.640
The Taliban weren't a formed body, a formed army.

00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:33.759
Well, exactly right, yeah.

00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:37.839
So these are civilians that were fighting every single day.

00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:41.599
So when they say in the media, Ben Robertson was killing civilians, yeah, we we all were.

00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:42.880
You were too, Maddie.

00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:44.720
Like they were civilians.

00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:48.160
That's the term for someone who's not in an army that's fighting you.

00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:54.799
You could jazz it up and say an armed militia or whatever you want to frame it as, but they were just civilians.

00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:58.799
So they said, if you don't want to go to the range, go up and talk to Dr.

00:23:58.880 --> 00:23:59.440
Cromford.

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She's she's sitting in her room.

00:24:01.039 --> 00:24:05.200
And I'll put my hand up, young Scourgeo, and said, Is she hot?

00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:24.160
And then they brought up a photo of her on the big screen, and she looked to me like one of those fellas that had been hit by an IED in Afghanistan and was wearing, you know, the fit the pictures you see of someone wearing M-frame ballistic sunglasses and they got hit by an IED and all the rocks hit him in the face, and they've just got basically crater face.

00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:25.920
That's what she looked like.

00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:27.920
She looked like an absolute fucking minger.

00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:31.359
And I said, Well, if she's not hot, why the fuck would we want to go talk to her?

00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:35.119
And we all put our body armor on and we all went to the range and no one went to talk to her.

00:24:35.279 --> 00:24:41.119
And to this day, and I don't know if they'll admit it to me or not, I don't know a single dude that went and spoke to Dr.

00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:43.839
Cromfitz from Two Commando.

00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:50.160
But obviously, everyone in Perth was doing that because they were all trying to bring Ben Robert Smith down.

00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:59.519
So from there, her report, where I think she got paid allegedly$6 million or something to do that report.

00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:08.640
And then from there, they decided, well, there's enough allegations here that we're going to get uh the IGADF to conduct an inquiry an inquiry into this matter.

00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:12.559
So it's official, it's all documented and it's an internal investigation.

00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:18.240
And over 400 operators, support staff, everyone would be brought in and questioned.

00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:35.039
And when I was started to ask questions and people started to talk about it, the mess, their experiences of this, predominantly Hesto's platoon from Alpha Company, dudes that you've had on here, Shane Cav, T-Bone, Hesto, everyone was saying the same thing.

00:25:35.200 --> 00:26:02.400
Some of the shit that they were talking about doing was laminating a picture of every single person you've allegedly killed in Afghanistan in a proper gun battle, laminating that photo, putting on a desk in front of you, and going, for the next fucking eight hours, we're gonna sit here and we're gonna go through every single laminated photo of that dude missing half his head, and you're gonna tell me why you shot him, what you were doing, what happened, how it occurred.

00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:06.799
Some of these dudes were already showing serious signs of PTSD.

00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:13.839
And on one occasion, I know of a dude, he laid on, he just sat back on his chair, he laid on the floor for half an hour straight.

00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:16.799
He had a full mental breakdown in that room.

00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:22.799
No one helped him, no RSM came in, no CSM, no one came to help.

00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:49.200
And anyone listening to this, even my biggest hater, one of these journalists that fucking hate me and despise everything I stand for, do you think, as a left-leaning person, someone who's well educated, that it's good to laminate pictures of people that you've killed in battle five years, ten years prior, and show them pictures of it and refuse them any kind of help or support and force them to relive all those moments?

00:26:49.279 --> 00:27:00.160
And I know for a fact one of the boys said, the pictures that I was shown, like the dude's eyeballs were I shot him in the head and his eyeballs blew out the front of his face, and they were just dangling there like they're on spaghetti.

00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:08.000
And he goes, I spent the last few years of my life doing everything I could to forget that image, and they're forcing me to look at it.

00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:10.960
And this dude was about to proper crash out.

00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:13.119
He was he was about to go fucking postal.

00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:14.000
When was this?

00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:17.200
This is like when was this and is this out?

00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:18.079
This isn't out.

00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:20.799
No, I've So this this this is fucking damning.

00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:21.599
This is damn.

00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:32.000
This is this is what we talk about when we go for coffees, or when we're all oiling each other up and having an all-male fucking gangbang and a jacuzzi somewhere in fucking Kooji or Nauties.

00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:35.039
This is what we talk about and how fucked up it is.

00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:38.799
But I don't think I've never heard anyone say this before outside of our circles.

00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:42.960
But with what's going on, has that been reported on other streams though within defense?

00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:44.319
I don't think I've never heard it.

00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:45.119
Have you?

00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.799
No, no, and I know the dude that top like in question.

00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.759
I'm I've been telling you for a while to get him on the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:53.599
Yeah, uh, we won't say his name.

00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:56.559
But like I was ropeable hearing that.

00:27:56.640 --> 00:28:00.960
I was fucking absolutely living because these these are dudes that I look up to as well.

00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:02.559
Like, obviously, like my idols.

00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:18.079
Imagine finding out that your hero, your idol, the dude that you look up to and and try and project yourself to be like, emulate, and they're they're basically forcing them almost to suicide, you would say, like, and some of them have killed themselves.

00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:20.000
How many soldiers is do they do this to?

00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:21.759
They've interviewed 400 people.

00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:23.920
Yeah, but how many do they do this with the photos?

00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:25.039
I know of several.

00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:27.279
And this is IG ADF doing this.

00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:32.720
Well, this is uh the reservist lawyers that the IG ADF have appointed.

00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:37.119
And I'm not gonna say this is all Paul Breton's fault, the reservist or whatever.

00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:39.519
You know, at the end of the day, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:43.279
Maybe he was just stabbed to do that job, right?

00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:45.359
And he's appointed at these couple of lawyers.

00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:49.359
I think one of them's name's Vespa, and another one, they tried to interview me.

00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:51.680
I told them to get fucked, essentially, legally.

00:28:51.839 --> 00:29:02.319
Um, I'm one of the few people that completely and utterly refused to show up for my interview because by that point in time I knew where it was going and I knew how they were being treated.

00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:07.599
And from a mental health point of view, I'm not gonna risk it, am I?

00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:09.279
It doesn't seem right.

00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:13.680
No, you who who's one of like let's say Nick McKenzie, do you think that's right what they did?

00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:20.960
Like, fair enough, in a courtroom in a trial in a murder trial, yep, you're gonna put some stuff up on the whiteboard, OJ Simpson, put on this glove.

00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:22.400
That's the murder glove.

00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:24.799
This is just a fact find.

00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:26.240
This is just a fact find.

00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:29.920
And the CSMs and RSMs, they allowed this to happen.

00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:40.720
You had one of the SAS boys uh on, I think uh was it I forget his name, but he was talking about he could hear them yelling at the the SAS boys down the hallway, right?

00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:47.680
Yep, and he allegedly I heard that he went in and kicked the door in one day and said, No, you fucking cunts, that's not how you treat my men.

00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:49.359
It didn't happen in two commando.

00:29:49.599 --> 00:30:01.359
And I'll forever I love the the regiment, but I'm very disappointed in some of the seniors for allowing this to happen and not putting their neck on the line to stop this because it only got worse.

00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:03.119
And look at what happened to Ben the other day.

00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:06.799
It's only gotten worse for them not stepping in.

00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:08.559
You're a woe-won cunt.

00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.400
Get the fuck in the room and fucking knock that cunt out.

00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:16.240
And you would be a fucking hero in the regiment, but you allowed it to happen.

00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:22.799
Some of them, and we were just talking about this before I came in, met dudes in the car park and led them to their death.

00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.359
They led them to the interviews, they tricked them.

00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:27.200
They tricked them to interviews.

00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:30.319
They said, come in, we need to have a chat in the car park.

00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:37.119
And when they got there, they led them to a room where there was people waiting to ambush them and seize devices and stuff like that.

00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:39.920
And I I found that absolutely disgusting.

00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:43.039
So then, anyway, a lot more stuff happened then.

00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:44.720
A lot's happened since then.

00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:46.960
We can't go back and change it.

00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.519
A lot of the witnesses, there are some witnesses from Afghanistan.

00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:52.960
Let's say Darwan, for example.

00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:57.680
The one dude that saw something happen, he was fucking came out in the trial, he's fucking 90 years old.

00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.880
He admits that he can't even see his own dick, his eyes are that bad.

00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:04.880
Yet he saw uh Ben kick someone off a cliff fucking 300 meters away.

00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:09.200
We'll talk about that more in another podcast when I was there a couple months later.

00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:11.200
I was out there, there's no fucking cliff.

00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:12.880
It was just a fucking small hill.

00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:14.799
I was sat right next to it.

00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:20.559
And some of these Afghan witnesses, I don't think this has been reported yet.

00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:22.079
They're here in Australia.

00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:24.079
Our government flew them back.

00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:26.160
I know one of them lives in Adelaide.

00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.720
People that are involved in Ben's trial live here in Australia now.

00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.839
Have they benefited off this whole situation?

00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:35.279
So wait.

00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:48.799
So there is uh some of these people that we saw on a current affair or one of those news channels where the news, that reporter, what's I don't know what that fucking geek's name is, but he flew over there, interviewed these people with money.

00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:49.359
Yeah.

00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:50.799
Here's$100,000.

00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:51.599
Yeah.

00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:52.240
So yeah.

00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:53.279
You give him$100.

00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:54.720
That's here's your script.

00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:55.359
Yeah, yeah.

00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:56.160
Type thing.

00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:00.799
You're saying that there is a couple of them here living in Australia on the taxpayers' money.

00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:06.319
Well, here's what I'm saying that hasn't been reported yet, which may be rather interesting to people listening.

00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:15.519
I heard, allegedly, a whole group of Afghan witnesses got put up in a hotel in Kabul for almost a year that was paid for.

00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:16.960
Some of this has been reported.

00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:28.960
What hasn't been reported is that when you want to protect a witness from getting killed by the Taliban for cooperating with the Australian forces, what do you do in Kabul to keep them safe before they fly home, Maddie?

00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:30.240
You're the SME on this.

00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:31.680
Yeah, a bodyguard.

00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:32.559
A bodyguard.

00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:33.839
So guess what?

00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:43.279
A certain media organization hired a company, film full of bodyguards, to live in the Kabul hotel with them for almost a year.

00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:50.000
Now, who, in your opinion, Maddie, where do these CPP bodyguards on the circuit generally come from?

00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:51.119
From units.

00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.400
They come from the units, they come from the army.

00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.119
And have you heard of the term Stockholm syndrome?

00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:05.039
Where the witnesses started opening up to their bodyguards because they're spending so much time with them.

00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:05.839
Yep.

00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:10.720
One of the bodyguards is a very famous Instagram influencer.

00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:21.119
And now I won't mention his name, but he told me they've all recorded videos and conversations with these witnesses in the hotel while they're waiting to be flown back to Australia.

00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.640
They're giving them a bit of a, oh, do you want me to buy you lunch?

00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:26.319
It looks like you don't have any money.

00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:31.039
And the Afghan witnesses are saying, Well, we're meant to get lots of money soon.

00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:32.799
We're coming to Australia.

00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:35.359
And they're like, Oh, that's really good.

00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.880
Cost of living's really bad where we live in Sydney.

00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:46.160
You really want to get a lot of money out of these um these journalists and these people are giving you money because you're gonna need it living in Australia.

00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:48.000
Um, just to buy a house in Sydney.

00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:51.599
It's it's almost one and a half million dollars in the western suburbs.

00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:53.519
And they're like, Yes, yes, sir.

00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:58.880
We have lots of money and lots of things promised to us, and they recorded it all.

00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:02.000
And that dude, these dudes are all messaging us this.

00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:11.920
And when the trial comes, it's gonna be interesting when these audio files, these witnesses statements come out from boys who have witness statements on the Afghan witnesses.

00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:13.039
Bombshell.

00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:13.840
Bombshell.

00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:14.880
Holy shit.

00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:18.000
And we've known about this for a long time.

00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:22.000
And then guess who the SAS then sent, you know, the fall of Kabul?

00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:27.840
Um, a number of Australian soldiers, Rafis, all went over to grab all these people and bring them home.

00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:36.159
One of the people they sent to grab the Afghan witnesses is one of the numbers of the persons that I just mentioned.

00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.360
And he admitted to in his trial, he was there for the fall of Kabul.

00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:42.000
So they sent one of the dudes that was.

00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:44.400
Was it in the trial that stated he brought him back as well?

00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:45.519
Yeah, it is in the trial.

00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:46.800
Yeah, it is in the trial.

00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:50.079
You can you can everything I try and try to be factual.

00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:50.400
Yeah.

00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:56.559
I've obviously got some emotions attached to this, but I try like Chucky, Chucky says, facts don't care about feelings.

00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:58.480
This is factual information.

00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:02.880
And this is gonna fuck up the prosecution, I would imagine.

00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:05.599
All your witnesses, we're just tearing them to shreds.

00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:12.559
And this is just some random commando that sat in on the trial and listened to a bit of this and spoke to a few people as an investigative journalist.

00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:14.719
And I've found all this information out myself.

00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:18.880
And I imagine when people hear this podcast, more and more of this information is gonna come out.

00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:20.320
Don't send it to me, I don't care.

00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:25.599
Send it to fucking RS's lawyers, send it to people that are involved, it's gonna come out.

00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.559
But knowing that these witnesses are now fucked, very interesting.

00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:39.599
And handsomely paid, very concerning thing because is it the media paying them or is it the Australian government?

00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:47.119
So this is um This is an yeah, you know, it's all speculation right now, but we know for a fact there was money involved.

00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:47.440
Yep.

00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:51.119
And if they're here in Australia, obviously money involved, yep.

00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:55.920
Housing, visas, vehicles, training, tape courses, everything, healthcare.

00:35:56.480 --> 00:36:04.159
I'd like to know how many of these so-called and in saying that will these witnesses obviously be called to court?

00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:05.119
Obviously they have to.

00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:10.159
They tried to get one of them for Ben's trial, person 12.

00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:11.920
He was unavailable.

00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:12.880
That's weird.

00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:15.920
But there was another person that was unavailable, person six.

00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:26.239
Now, person six, a little birdie told me, allegedly, is the only person in his IGADF interview to admit to torturing a prisoner himself.

00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.800
He admitted to torturing a prisoner in writing.

00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.679
Why hasn't he been arrested for war crimes?

00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:35.760
That was all through court.

00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:36.480
Yep.

00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:37.280
Yep.

00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:41.039
He admitted to torturing a prisoner.

00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:42.800
And he hasn't been arrested.

00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:44.000
He lives here in Australia.

00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:45.119
Why not?

00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.280
Well, he didn't have to show up for the trial.

00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:50.719
He was the only person a lot of people were subpoenaed that didn't want to be there.

00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:51.679
Everyone was saying that.

00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:53.440
I don't want to be here, I've been subpoenaed.

00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:54.559
They still spoke.

00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:58.400
Person six SASR or SASR against Ben.

00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:00.079
And you can Google this.

00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:05.199
Person six was mentioned a lot in the trial, but he was never at the trial.

00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:08.559
And I wonder, as an outsider looking in, why wasn't he there?

00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:13.679
He seems to be like a pillar of all this uh all this hoo-ha and carrying on carrying on.

00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:24.639
And I hope I haven't got the number wrong, but um yeah, there is a dude, essentially, no matter what his name is or his person number, that admitted to actually torturing someone, and he was he hasn't been arrested.

00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:25.280
Why not?

00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:33.599
If you admit to a crime, you're still generally as a police a police investigation, you're still going to be arrested, and then that's mitigating circumstances.

00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:37.039
Maybe you'll get reduced sentencing by cooperating or whatever.

00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:50.639
But to admit to a crime and then not be punished for it, and then to cooperate potentially allegedly with the enemy, with uh Fairfax or Nine News, and you've got a dude on your team, Mr.

00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:56.800
McKenzie, that allegedly admitted to war crimes, but he's one of your boys.

00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:57.840
What's going on there?

00:37:58.239 --> 00:37:59.440
That's what I can't understand.

00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:01.599
So maybe you can enlighten me uh Mr.

00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:02.639
McKenzie, Mr.

00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:05.840
Masters, maybe we can ask Scott Ryder to get Chris Masters on.

00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:07.440
Uh, you know, they're good mates.

00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:09.360
Um, now who's another bloke?

00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:10.400
Andrew Hasty.

00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:12.480
A very hot topic at the moment.

00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.159
I have never met Andrew Hasty.

00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:22.239
And when he came out, I was like, well, this dude, um, this dude seems like a good poly.

00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.119
Like he seems like fucking the our type of dude, man.

00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:31.840
Like a conservative Christian white male fit X S A S was a digger, he gets it.

00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:39.920
Then we started standing up for RS and all the boys and our friends a couple of years back on on the socials.

00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:43.360
He came out and absolutely blasted Hesto.

00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:49.440
And I've got the video, and I think uh Big Chocks doing a thing on it tomorrow, I heard allegedly.

00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:54.159
He said, Hest and Russell on Sky News, shut your fucking mouth.

00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:56.719
You're not SAS, don't speak on our behalf.

00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:58.159
It's got nothing to do with you.

00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:00.960
You're not SAS, you never were, you never will be.

00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:02.239
Shut your fucking mouth.

00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:07.360
And I even Scourgeo, I thought, well, fuck, fuck, maybe I shouldn't be speaking on these matters.

00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:09.599
Because they're not a lot of them aren't my friends.

00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:11.119
A lot of them probably actually hate me.

00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:14.000
Why why should I stand up for them if they don't want the help?

00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:36.480
Then a year or two later, Hess Hasty gets on the stand and rips RS, and it's like, oh, it was a bit of a fucking light bulb moment, like, oh, okay, you potentially wanted us to shut the fuck up because we've got a lot of traction and we're saying some important shit, but it goes against your narrative because you're on the other side, brother.

00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:41.519
And that was a bit of a knife in the heart, especially for Hesto, because Hesto's trying to do the right thing.

00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:48.159
He's he's proven that a lot of these allegations are baseless and the ABC had to give him 400k.

00:39:48.800 --> 00:40:02.079
But at the time, we didn't realize that some of these individuals are playing the other side, and that really fucked us up because we we could have been doing this shit ripping these cunts a while back, but we just generally never thought that Ben would ever be in a jail cell.

00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:05.039
But right now he is in fucking Silverwater on remand.

00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.880
Another individual, David McBride.

00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:20.719
Now, a lot of my a lot of my uh haters like to rip me just to promote David McBride's cause to free him to raise money for him.

00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:25.360
I met David McBride just before he went in into jail.

00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:26.079
I met him.

00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:30.159
We were at a cafe together, and I I put my hand out, shook his hand, said, Hey man.

00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:33.360
This is my understanding of his situation.

00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:39.280
And this is also what the judge said in sentencing notes before he put him in jail, allegedly.

00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:41.679
David McBride, you're not a whistleblower.

00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:43.679
You were supporting the SAS.

00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:56.239
You took these secret documents to the ABC to say, brother, we we think that the wrong things happening to SAS operators, they're being grilled, they're being roasted, and they should they don't deserve this.

00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:58.079
And that's what David McBride did.

00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:05.280
Then the ABC allegedly twisted that and turned it into a the SAS are committing war crime story, and it ran from there.

00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.920
David McBride, I've never heard him rip RS.

00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:11.599
I've never heard him come out and say RS Schulze, all these countries should be in jail.

00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:14.800
I've put and I look at a lot of his content to check.

00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:21.360
It's his supporters saying that he's a whistleblower, his supporters outside court saying, free David McBride.

00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:24.320
David McBride supports Ben Robert Smith.

00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:26.639
That's why he leaked the documents.

00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:36.639
And I met him and he's a good dude, and he gets it, and I told him about like all the fucking rats, and he chose not to run with what I thought was a good defense to keep him out of jail.

00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:44.719
And this is probably going to shock a lot of people that I was fucking catching up with David McBride, and now he's sitting in a jail cell in Canberra for up to six years.

00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:58.079
But like it's just an absolute fucking dumpster fire, and a lot of the commandos are obviously loving it because they're getting all the trips, they're getting all the jobs and the funding because the SAS is in a fucking shambles.

00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:04.719
But as a civilian now, as a as a fucking random punter in society, I want a strong ADF.

00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.119
I want a strong special operations command.

00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:07.840
Of course.

00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:12.639
Because if you get captured and think and don't think about you, think about your mum, your sister.

00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:17.039
She goes on a holiday and fucking Kentiki tour somewhere and she gets grabbed.

00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:19.599
Those same dudes are coming to save her.

00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:24.719
Those same dudes have in the past, and you haven't done this podcast yet.

00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:41.280
A chick got grabbed in Southeast Asia and an SAS operator, when ACES failed and D Fat failed with the briefcase drop, he went in there into a small hut in Southeast Asia, and with a pistol, he killed all the captors and took that girl out of there and went home.

00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:48.000
These are the boys that are gonna save you, your missus, your sister, your daughter, when you're in the fucking shit.

00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:50.000
And whether you like them or not, they will.

00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:52.000
They will lay down their life for you.

00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:57.119
I would gladly have laid down my life for my biggest haters, fucking missus, if she was in danger.

00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.000
And we wouldn't have thought a second thing about it.

00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:03.679
Yet they are celebrating right now that Ben's going to jail.

00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:05.039
Doesn't make sense, does it?

00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:06.480
It doesn't make sense.

00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:07.840
He's not your enemy.

00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:12.800
If you're angry at what we did in Afghanistan, be angry at the army.

00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:14.559
Be angry at the officers.

00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:16.400
Be angry at the politicians.

00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:18.960
I was there in Afghanistan with Kevin Rudd.

00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:19.280
Yep.

00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:21.119
I've worked with Malcolm Turnbull.

00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.679
I've had I've briefed Malcolm Turnbull into capabilities.

00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:25.920
I've done PT at work with Tony Abbott.

00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:29.280
I've worked with all of these labor, liberal cunts, man.

00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:30.000
I have.

00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.239
And I don't respect many of them.

00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:39.119
I pretended that I liked them when they shook my hand and patted me on the back and said, good job, little Scojo, for fucking whacking that cunt.

00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:43.280
And everything was cool and we pretended like we cared.

00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:45.519
They are fucking morons.

00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:47.119
It's their fault.

00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:49.199
They signed off on the policy.

00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:56.719
They told us that it's easier to kill rather than capture a suicide bomber because it's common sense.

00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:59.679
They wrote ROE 429.

00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:16.480
Alpha, which blatantly says to anyone that was doing targeting operations that a person on the JPEL who we go out and tell you to kill is allowed to be killed at all times as if they are taking a direct part in hostilities.

00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:17.199
Google that.

00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:33.599
If he is deemed the target for that mission.

00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:37.760
And no one I think has driven that point home yet.

00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:54.320
And maybe if I ever do a podcast, I'll tell you about my situations where I was involved in these situations where an unarmed threat is in front of me that I'm legally allowed to commit premeditated murder on because he is the JPEL.

00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:56.480
His name is Objective X.

00:44:56.719 --> 00:45:11.840
And because he is Objective X and we are there to kill him, even if he puts his arms in the air, he's watering his plants, he's petting a baby goat, if he's the guy on the list, we are directed to kill that individual.

00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:20.159
And that comes from the commanders, the dudes with pips on their shoulders, the politicians, the minister for defense.

00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.119
For 20 years, it was Labour and Liberal, it was a mix.

00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:24.559
It wasn't just one government.

00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:32.719
So if you're angry at RS and you're celebrating right now because he's in jail and you want more people in jail, you want Shulzy to be locked up as well.

00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:38.000
Think about what they told us to do and why they did that.

00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:44.719
And if you're unhappy with that, then direct your hate towards the real enemy, which is the politicians, the ministers.

00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:45.519
100%.

00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:46.559
Yeah.

00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:47.679
The government.

00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:48.320
Yeah.

00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:50.960
Weak governments led to Bondi.

00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:53.119
Plain and fucking simple.

00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:53.679
Yeah.

00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:55.039
I agree.

00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:59.679
This is absolutely wild.

00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:01.280
There's a lot of stuff in there.

00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:02.239
I didn't know.

00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:04.800
There's a lot of stuff I do know, a lot of stuff I don't know.

00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:08.480
But that is going to blow the lid off a few things.

00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:15.119
Especially, like you said, there's all these people coming out with the, you know, the last 40 minutes has been the Scojo.

00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:17.039
It's been pretty much bedtime warring.

00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:39.199
As you said, you know, majority of the stuff that's come out in social media, the these social media influencers and comedians and whoever that never served a day in their lives are generally the ones with the opinions leaning towards more towards the left and understand and following what the media is presenting to them, like this 21 man that didn't like BRS.

00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:43.360
What about the other hundred operators that back RS?

00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:43.840
Yep.

00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:49.440
Now you've explained some of the story on some of these numbers, person one, person four, four-n etc.

00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:52.079
And the type of people they are.

00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:52.559
Yeah.

00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:54.480
And we got to look at it as well.

00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:59.599
BRS was awarded the VC 2011, I believe.

00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:00.880
Yeah, about then.

00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:02.960
Uh 2006 for his MG.

00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:04.960
None of this come out.

00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:10.639
You know, there was all the all always the in-unit bickering, which is happens in every unit.

00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:12.480
Police are the same, fire is the same.

00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:15.840
There's always this fucking Days of Our Lives fucking drama.

00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:16.079
Yeah.

00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:19.920
But none of it come out until what 16, 15, 16?

00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:20.320
Yeah.

00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:27.519
After he's been awarded, and obviously getting posted up on social media and a poster boy for the SASR and blah blah blah.

00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:31.199
And then it all comes out because I guess jealousy comes part of it.

00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:42.639
And Hamish, I think one of the best quotes I've heard in your potty on this is that Hamish said the guns haven't the barrels hadn't even cooled down from T Zac and they're already bickering over who got this award and who got that award.

00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:44.079
And yeah, sure.

00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:44.960
I agree.

00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:51.039
Multiple people on that day listening to those stories should have got upgrades and medals, and they all should have got one.

00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:51.599
Fuck man.

00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:52.559
That's hectic.

00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:56.400
Yeah, Hamish, mate, he said he was on the right flank.

00:47:56.480 --> 00:48:06.239
Everyone, not just him, like he's never said anything, but people are saying, like, he killed seven people by himself on the flank that were trying to outflank the other person who got the Star of Gallantry.

00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.599
He'd be dead if it wasn't for Hamish and his mate down in the orchard.

00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:12.639
And it's like, I know of countless stories like that.

00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:17.039
I watched dudes do some of the most bravest things I've ever seen in my life.

00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:20.960
And because they were just commandos, it's considered part of their job.

00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:23.039
They're expected to do that stuff.

00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:31.119
And it's like almost everyone that served in Afghanistan, you could almost justify, deserves a fucking medal of gallantry for what they did and what they experienced.

00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:38.559
And I just find it really strange that Australians want to burn these cunts.

00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:41.519
If if it was a mile a situation, sure.

00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:45.280
If we were doing the whole village, if we were murdering women and children.

00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:46.000
That's it.

00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:48.639
If they were napalming fucking villages like in Vietnam.

00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:49.039
Yep.

00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:50.159
Fair fucking call.

00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:50.880
But they're not.

00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.199
One of the most damning allegations that Dr.

00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:55.199
You can Google this one, everyone, if you're at home.

00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:56.320
Play along with me.

00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:56.800
Dr.

00:48:56.960 --> 00:49:07.679
Cromfitz, who did the report, came out and said the most damning allegation was that the SAS slit a whole bunch of boys' throats, put them in body bags, and threw them in the river.

00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:11.840
Where's that allegation in Ben's recent charges?

00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:15.039
No one has ever brought that up in the defamation trial.

00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:20.559
This is allegedly the worst thing that's happened in Australian special forces history was that exact allegation.

00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:26.239
First of all, if you're trying to bury someone's body in a river, why would you put them in a body bag?

00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:29.039
And that that doesn't make any sense.

00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:30.480
That would be absolutely retarded.

00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:31.679
And where did that come from?

00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:33.039
It came from that report Dr.

00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:33.840
Cromfitz did.

00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:34.480
You can Google that.

00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:36.239
But how did he get that report?

00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:44.960
From where did that someone someone that went and sat down with her, told her that, allegedly, and she came out on national news.

00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:48.320
You can Google it, you can listen to her say those exact words that I just said.

00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:53.119
And it and I at the time was like, holy fuck, man, if that happened, that's fucking cooked.

00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:57.440
Clearly, by this point in time, 10 years later, someone's been charged for that.

00:49:57.519 --> 00:49:58.400
No one's been charged.

00:49:58.480 --> 00:49:59.760
No one's even brought that up.

00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:03.039
But that was the whole premise for the Beridan report starting.

00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:04.320
So what the fuck?

00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.000
Where did that allegation go?

00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:07.440
What happened with that?

00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:09.039
It makes no sense.

00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:21.039
Like a lot of this was clearly bullshit designed to get the RSM in a flat spin so that he would uh, I don't know, maybe stop inviting RS to the annual piss-up at the Gradle or whatever.

00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:22.559
Like, what was this all about?

00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:24.480
Pure jealousy.

00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:32.719
Why were dudes measuring out the distance between machine gun positions in T Zack two years after Ben got his VC?

00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:34.320
It's pure jealousy.

00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:42.559
And I heard that that same dude, his missus left him, allegedly, because all he ever talks about is fucking Ben Robert Smith.

00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:47.440
All these dudes are fucking having marriage breakdowns, mental health crashes.

00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:49.280
It's it's fucking insane.

00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:54.159
It's insane that you would dedicate your life to ruining someone else's life.

00:50:54.320 --> 00:51:01.360
But like I said before, you can see now why they're so angry, why they're so upset, because Ben kicked them out.

00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:09.119
Show me one of these witnesses against Ben that is his friend or was ever his friend or was ever seen as a good operator.

00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:10.159
You can't.

00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:10.960
You can't.

00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:11.440
Yeah.

00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:13.039
And that's gonna come out now.

00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:14.239
The gloves are off.

00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:15.599
Murder trial, let's go.

00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:16.559
Yeah, yeah.

00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:20.079
I'm interested to see what happens with this this photo thing.

00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:30.719
That's that's a that's an odd thing to do, and especially like you spoke about, you know, Hamish shellacking seven blokes, multiple operators that killed a lot of dudes.

00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:31.039
Yeah.

00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:33.679
10, 20, 30, 40, 50.

00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:34.000
Yep.

00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:38.000
Did they get a photo for every single one of them and go, here's your 50 that you killed?

00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:39.679
That's what I heard, but it check them out.

00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:41.199
If that happened to you, come and tell Maddie.

00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:43.599
Fucking drop in an anonymous message.

00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:45.280
Like, am I talking shit?

00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:48.159
I could just be absolutely talking out my ass right now.

00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:49.920
Like, let's let's back it up.

00:51:50.159 --> 00:52:02.159
Um, it's it it didn't sit well with me at the time, and um it probably had a lot to do with uh we won't talk about what happened, but yeah, I crashed out, let's just put it that way.

00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:03.840
I think that's I crashed out over it.

00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:18.239
We speak about the AFP saying that they care for mental health and blah blah blah for the families and stuff, and obviously all of this, all of this, BRS, Scholze, everything in the last you know, 10 years, IG ADF has destroyed families.

00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:20.400
It has killed people.

00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:23.920
One of the SAS boys involved in this killed himself last year.

00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:24.239
Yep.

00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:24.480
Yep.

00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:26.079
You tracking who I'm talking about.

00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:32.719
And and um he wasn't out on the ground, he was not qualified at the time, he was an officer.

00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:36.880
He was in the the headquarters element in Tarrank out, right?

00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:44.239
One of his jobs was to do the AARs, to do the um the post-operation review, right?

00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:57.039
And because he allegedly um didn't do the best job at it or whatever, he got absolutely fucking fried by the IGADF inquiry over that.

00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:10.880
They tried to put so much heat on him that uh one of the boys said the last time they saw that guy, he was standing outside the medical center in uh in Swanborne Barracks in Perth as a qualified SAS dude in tears.

00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:12.159
And he's like, Are you all right?

00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:13.119
You alright, brother?

00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:17.840
And he goes, Mate, I just can't believe what they're doing in my career over nothing.

00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:19.440
And then he killed himself.

00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:21.519
He fuck he killed himself.

00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:28.960
People are killing themselves over this, over nothing, but it's a big deal to them, obviously.

00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:30.480
Yeah, yeah.

00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:34.000
Obviously, lucky I'm a commando, we're obviously a lot more resilient.

00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:39.360
Um we do a six-week selection, not a 21-day little fucking field exercise.

00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:42.000
So two commanders obviously come out a lot better.

00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:43.920
No one talks, everyone walks.

00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:50.960
And uh probably the only thing I agree in the Brown report that came out, other than the admission of ROE 429 Alpha.

00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:56.159
Have a look into that, boys, is two commando acted like a bikey culture.

00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:01.199
Yeah, we should start a bikey club actually.

00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:05.519
Shout out to the boys without warning.

00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:12.800
Honestly, yeah, again, a lot of that was wow, and I'm sure this is gonna reach Jesus Christ.

00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:14.400
I don't know what's gonna happen.

00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:18.159
I'll leave the front door unlocked for you boys AFP want to come kick in my door again.

00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:26.800
Oh well, a lot of this information has come from the trial through documents, yeah, and then obviously look it up, yeah, yeah, exactly right.

00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:30.239
And then and then information from guys in the unit.

00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:30.880
Yeah.

00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:32.559
So nothing's Nah.

00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:36.480
And everything for that trial is held, I think, for something like a hundred years in federal court.

00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:44.320
One of the boys told me there was a whole box he saw during examination of screenshots of my Instagram.

00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:49.280
And it's in federal court, it's now documented as tendered evidence for 100 years in federal court.

00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:51.199
Yeah, made history, boys.

00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:56.880
Not that I wanted to, but I just I I just didn't like how this was going down.

00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:05.039
I I've always told my diggers in in the army, like, don't let ever let emotions get involved in this job because that's where it starts to go bad.

00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:10.320
But at some point you gotta um stand on your morals, you know?

00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:12.239
Stand on your 10-2 toes.

00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:15.280
And if someone needs swinging on, you fucking swing on them.

00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:34.719
And I I had a few swings at some people in some very high positions, and uh, and I took a few blows, I took a few pretty big counter punches, and um, and I'm no longer serving in the military, and because of that, everyone gets to see my photos that I never thought would see the light of day, other than m showing my grandkids or whatever one day.

00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:37.119
Now the world gets to laugh at them.

00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:39.920
Why were you shitting in Saddam Hussein's pool?

00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:42.719
Why were you in fucking speedos on a roof in Mosul?

00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:44.400
If only we could do a podcast.

00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:45.519
Yeah, if only.

00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:48.960
Don't ask yourself why I was in a speedo on a roof in Mosul.

00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:50.800
Ask yourself why you weren't.

00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.679
Your fucking dickhead sitting back in Canberra.

00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:55.360
Yeah, fuck yourself, mate.

00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:56.079
Yeah.

00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:57.440
Um, all right.

00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:03.199
Well, you know, again, a lot of that's uh pretty interesting, and I'm sure a lot of l listeners are gonna get something out of that.

00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:24.000
We're gonna make one phone call to a a longtime listener, uh, longtime friend, obviously linked with BRS to the levels of we spoke about earlier, a certain MG recipient that was kind of bit annoyed that he got an MG only because of someone a hero.

00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:28.800
Yeah, a hero, yeah, but got it because of a lack of someone not doing their job correctly.

00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:36.559
Uh and obviously uh Matthew Locke was killed uh in action and we're gonna call his son Keegan.

00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:38.480
Let's let's give Keegs a call.

00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:40.480
Let's let's see what he's doing.

00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:42.719
How exciting.

00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:51.440
Hello Kegs, it's Maddie and uh Scojo.

00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:52.960
Boys, how you going?

00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:53.920
Good mate.

00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:56.079
Um obviously we'll just Scojo.

00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:59.760
I'm just I'm just hands hands deep hands deep in a kangaroo.

00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:00.559
Oh yeah.

00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:05.599
Oh protecting injured wildlife or something in its butt or in its guts?

00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:06.400
What what's going on?

00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:08.639
Uh guts, no butts.

00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:09.840
Guts, no butts.

00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:11.679
Yeah, uh Rue Cullen.

00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:16.559
Yeah, Rue Cullen just up in um literally just lifting it up.

00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:17.840
No, baker, yeah.

00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:19.280
Why is it?

00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:20.000
There we are.

00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:21.199
Sorry, just putting one on the thing.

00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:22.719
Yeah, mate, how you going, boys?

00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:23.199
Yeah, good.

00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:25.679
Obviously, we've been uh we've been chatting for the last hour.

00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:31.840
Scojo's been on a bit of a rampage talking about obviously what's happening within the media.

00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:36.320
Obviously, again, BRS arrested in the last 24 hours.

00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:41.920
Obviously, you go way back with uh BRS, more specifically with your odd boy.

00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:49.760
Mate, uh what's like all we want to do is just get a bit of a quick the background on you know your dealings with BRS.

00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:50.800
Yeah, man.

00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:59.440
So obviously I can't speak to him as a um as a soldier, um, besides what my old man or the other boys have said about him, which is only good stuff anyway.

00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:05.440
But I can speak about him as a man, and um I got nothing but good things, things to say about him as a man.

00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:13.119
Like we had um when my old man fucking got shot, uh, you know, he was one of the dudes that was sort of first around the house.

00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:15.039
He was around the house for a long time.

00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:16.639
He was always there.

00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:19.679
Used to come to my all my rugby games when he was back.

00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:26.000
Man, the dude used to volunteer his own fucking time at Christmas and come down to legacy camps.

00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:33.679
We're talking like, I don't know, 116 kids, none of which are his own, his own leave period.

00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:38.800
Uh, you know, he's looking after these kids that have all lost their dads.

00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:50.880
Um but yeah, like I said, man, like this this witch hunt, I guess, has painted him out to be this fucking subhuman scumbag, but he is honestly one of the best blokes I've ever met in my entire life.

00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:55.199
And um yeah, I've got nothing but fucking good things to say about RS.

00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:57.119
But he messaged me last week checking on me.

00:58:57.280 --> 00:58:57.760
You know what I mean?

00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:05.039
Who's messaging their you know, their best mate's son, who's 30 years old now, still to this day, checking in on him.

00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:08.239
So, you know, that's what I've got to say about him as a man.

00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:22.480
Yeah, Gojo was just saying this before that it's just pure disgusting that the Australian public have just pretty much just disregarded everything and just gone straight to the opinion of him being a criminal.

00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:23.599
Oh 100%.

00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:30.000
And then it's the it's it's just the lunacy of the fucking government and the media at the moment.

00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:34.239
But whatever they want to do, I don't know why they're going after these guys so bad.

00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:45.519
I mean, if you look at the list of the 19 guys, the 19 guys on that list were probably the dudes that stand out to me the most, as uh looking after the friends, the families of those who fell overseas, man.

00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:46.719
Like, that's just the truth.

00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:53.280
The 19 guys on that list are some of the most fucking caring and fucking loving dudes I've ever met.

00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:59.360
Um, and yeah, just to see them painted in this light is just it's so far beyond what I know them as.

00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:03.440
Like, yeah, they're warriors and they've got their own, they've got that, you know, that thing about them.

01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:09.760
But man, they are fucking excellent dads, excellent fucking loved ones, excellent humans.

01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:12.880
Um, ten times better than most humans you meet in the real world.

01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:14.960
So that's yeah, it's it's a shame.

01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:15.920
It's definitely a shame.

01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:16.800
It is, mate.

01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:17.119
It is.

01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:23.760
And like you said, you know, he's texting you now as a 30-year-old, your old boy passed away at 32.

01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:24.400
Is that correct?

01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:26.000
Yeah, man, he passed away when I was 12.

01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:28.639
So that's you know, it's going on for a long time, man.

01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:30.239
He's messaging me out, cut messaging me.

01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:32.800
Mate, he's flying me out to Brisbane before to hang out with him.

01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:41.760
He's same as Henry and Ellie Lou, which is Dids as kids, you know, with he's put nothing but fucking hard work in for all of us.

01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:45.440
Um, but not just in the on the battlefield, man.

01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:48.320
All the all the afterparts as well, man.

01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:51.920
The parts that the parts that do, you know, carry on for a long time.

01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:54.960
He's left a mark on, man, so many people.

01:00:55.119 --> 01:01:09.199
Like I guarantee if you asked Randman for stories about Ben Robert Smith at legacy camps, you know, when pick other people were going up, there'd be nothing but good things to say about how how how how he was as a person, how he carried himself as a professional human, not just as a soldier.

01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:19.679
And this is, you know, he's doing this volunteering at these legacy camps while he's still an active SASR operator, still serving overseas, still putting in the yards, killing cats.

01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:23.360
Between tours, between courses, like you know how busy those guys get.

01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:23.679
Yeah.

01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:27.280
He's in there in January on his leave in the middle of summer in Perth.

01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:34.880
Instead of fucking hanging out with his own missus and his own family, he's down there with the Smith sacrificing his time to hang out with these kids, not just SAS.

01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:39.039
We're talking Army, Air Force, Navy, yeah, fucking fieries, coppers.

01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:40.000
Oh, not all these kids.

01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:41.440
Not the pogs kids.

01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:42.800
Oh Christ.

01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:44.639
All these kids, man.

01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:47.920
And they're just and he's out there fucking putting it in for us.

01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:51.119
And he's just shows what a type of Australian he is.

01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:52.079
Yeah.

01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:52.719
Yeah.

01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:54.400
The standard you could say.

01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:55.679
Yeah, it should be.

01:01:55.760 --> 01:02:00.239
It should be the fucking minimum standard for someone who's served alongside dudes that have died.

01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:02.559
You should look after your you know, your mates' kids.

01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:05.679
And um yeah, it's it's a hard one, man.

01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:07.679
It's a hard one to stomach at the moment.

01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:20.159
Um, all we can hope for is that the, you know, I don't know the shit settles and and the truth about who he is as a person comes out, and um, you know, he's he gets to share a beer with us in a couple of intact days time.

01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:21.199
I'm sure he will.

01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:30.800
And I'm sure you'll be able to one day tell the story of how you knocked out one of the whistleblowers' sons for sexually advancing on one of the dead soldiers' daughters.

01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:32.400
Allegedly.

01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:36.000
Brother Boys.

01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:44.239
Yeah, no, I appreciate you uh taking the call and uh having a chat because it's um mate, you you know, you're you're you're a top dude, part of history.

01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:52.000
Your boy was an absolute fucking stellar human being from every account that I've ever heard from multiple operators that served with him.

01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:54.000
Obviously, BRS being one.

01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:56.239
And mate, yeah, thank you again.

01:02:56.400 --> 01:03:00.159
And when let's let's get this hunting underway.

01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:02.239
Let's let's we need to go for a shoot.

01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:03.679
Love your word.

01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:05.199
Yeah, easy.

01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:06.559
Free RS.

01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:07.440
Free the bread.

01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:08.079
100%.

01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:08.639
All right, brother.

01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:09.440
We'll chat you soon.

01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:09.840
See you, brother.

01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:10.159
Bye.

01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:11.039
Love you.

01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:13.679
Call chok.

01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:15.199
Call chok.

01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:20.239
Okay, uh going straight on to another phone call right now.

01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:26.639
And I think this is going to be uh the last one.

01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:29.920
Chris Catalaris.

01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:30.719
Catalaris?

01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:31.519
Catalaris.

01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:32.480
Never heard of him.

01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:33.440
Never heard of him.

01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:34.159
Big chop.

01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:35.360
Yeah, oh yeah, another blog.

01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:36.320
Oh, yeah.

01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:39.599
His dad sold me marijuana one time.

01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:43.599
He's not gonna fucking answer, is he?

01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:44.559
Does he have your numbers?

01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:46.239
Yeah, of course he does.

01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:48.639
All has been forwarded to voicemail.

01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:51.199
The person you're trying to reach is not available.

01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:53.599
At the tone, please record your message.

01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:56.159
When you have finished recording, you may hang up.

01:03:56.719 --> 01:03:57.440
Yeah, right.

01:03:57.599 --> 01:03:58.880
Too big for us now, are you?

01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:00.639
Yeah, 400,000 followers.

01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:01.199
Mr.

01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:02.000
Big Tom, eh?

01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:03.760
You can't even hear a call from your map.

01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:05.920
Yeah.

01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:07.280
This is my voicemail.

01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:09.280
If you don't like it, fuck off.

01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:17.920
Wait, wait just a minute or two, you might call back, but actually, just quickly, um, speaking about another uh influencer, Sam Bamford.

01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:21.920
We we chat we chat a fair bit, obviously uh three are our brethren.

01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:33.679
And I think I on one of his uh reels he spoke about you know the shooting that happened occurred on the 29th of August.

01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:43.280
I could be getting the dates wrong here, when the three blokes were killed, and he said the first hold up, hold up jobs on.

01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:49.760
Uh this is no call, no call ID.

01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:50.480
What's going on here?

01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:50.800
Mr.

01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:51.199
Big Job.

01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:51.679
Oh mate.

01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:53.199
I thought it was the AFP.

01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:54.800
Nah, nah.

01:04:55.440 --> 01:04:56.079
Not today.

01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:58.480
Nah, a brother Big Chock.

01:04:58.559 --> 01:04:59.199
Welcome, mate.

01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:01.280
Thanks for having me.

01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:03.280
Yeah, uh over the comms.

01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:04.000
Yeah, yep.

01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:06.480
Obviously, uh's here as well.

01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:07.280
You know him.

01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:08.480
You know, mate.

01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:09.519
On a rant.

01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:10.719
Absolute pest.

01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:11.519
Yeah, oh 100%.

01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:13.519
And it's it's wait till you hear this.

01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:16.480
I will uh it's just gonna blow your absolute mind.

01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:18.719
But basically, what what I wanted to do was call you.

01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:20.320
Obviously, you know, you've got a massive following.

01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:28.239
You've getting you're getting bigger and bigger, and you've been putting out some real big good content, you know, in regards to the whole Ben Robert Smith uh scenario.

01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:31.199
And obviously, myself and Scojo are both veterans.

01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:39.840
We've served over in Afghanistan, you know, we're I wouldn't say biased, but there's obviously some bias there because we're in the military, we've done it with blah blah blah.

01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:50.079
You're coming from that civilian as you know aspect, so we want to kind of get your view because what we've seen on social media is you know, there's a few other influencers, comedians, blah blah blah.

01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:56.960
Pretty much just you know, jump on that leftist narrat narrative and follow exactly what the media is saying.

01:05:57.199 --> 01:05:59.840
So can can you give us a quick you know, soldiers fire?

01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:01.119
On your thoughts?

01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:02.880
Yeah, yeah, 100%, man.

01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:07.840
I think, look, there is a massive divide online, once again, with what's going on.

01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:12.159
People are jumping on the leftist bandwagon, as you've all seen, or as we've all seen.

01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:28.239
But I think the the biggest issue here that we've got to look at as civilian speaking here is for myself and everyone else that hasn't served is the amount of money and time that the government have put into chasing 19 individuals for alleged war crimes.

01:06:28.559 --> 01:06:32.800
We've seen two convictions thus far, uh, sorry, not convictions, two arrests thus far.

01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:35.119
And no one's had a court date set.

01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:38.079
I think Schultzy has now, but it's not till next year.

01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:39.679
He was arrested in 23.

01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:52.559
So when you think to yourself, right, they've poured all this money into set individuals on XYZ, do you not think that they should have done it within a year of them coming home, you know, or two years of them coming home?

01:06:52.639 --> 01:07:09.840
Don't drag it out on and on and on to a point where the Australian people are sick to death of the way that the government are treating the Australian people, and then now add fuel to the fire by taking what some would consider a war hero and Australia's most decorated soldier and arresting him.

01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:15.440
So, in my opinion, man, I think it's just going to work heavily against the government once more.

01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:25.920
Um, there is there is a bit of a there's there's the hypothesis that it's like just another distraction, the reason that they've jumped at BRS now and blah, blah, blah.

01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:31.840
But I think the fact that they've done it in Kahoots with Channel 9 stinks to high heavens, man.

01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:45.039
So like coming from a civilian perspective of someone that's looking into the faults and failings of the government at the moment, it's just piling on to how they waste money and go for the wrong things, wrong people.

01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:52.400
And then you've got Faruqi coming out saying that it's great the BRS has been done, but she wanted to bring the ISIS brides back to Australia.

01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:56.400
It's like, well, where's where's any logic in what they're going on about at this point?

01:07:56.639 --> 01:08:08.239
And again, for the people that we're seeing on social media, man, like people are screaming from the rooftops he's guilty, he's guilty, but they're forgetting that our legal system works in a way where it's innocent until proven otherwise.

01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:14.400
You know, just because you lose a defamation case, it has nothing to do, like it's not similar to the criminal justice system.

01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:26.720
So without, and like I've seen a few things today, without a gun, without a body, and without the evidence of the scene, it's going to be very difficult for our justice system to prove him guilty.

01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:28.319
No, exactly right.

01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:30.479
I think that's exactly right.

01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:37.439
No body, no crime scene, no death certificate, no evidence, no shell cases, no nothing.

01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:38.560
Just nothing.

01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:47.520
Witness statements from both dirty Afghans and not all of them dirty.

01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:52.880
I do I do have some good friends that are Afghans that are uh do live here in Australia now.

01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:53.520
I don't.

01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:54.239
I do.

01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:58.960
Uh and also obviously ex uh operators.

01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:00.880
So that's all they've got to go off.

01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:05.279
It it's gonna be very interesting to see what happens and what transpires out of this.

01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:12.720
But as we know, we and like you said, the biggest worry here is the cost of this thing, 318 million thus far.

01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:17.680
It's probably gonna drag out for another three to four or five years, no doubt.

01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:24.880
So it's gonna keep a lot of uh OSI ABN holders, you know, cashed up, baby.

01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:27.119
Well and truly in the green.

01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:28.640
What are what are some of their names again?

01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:32.560
They're hearers, Weinstein, Goldstein, and Goldberg.

01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:33.840
Yeah, Weinstein.

01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:34.479
Interesting.

01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:35.600
Interesting.

01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:37.840
How interesting, how interesting.

01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:40.079
The listeners can connect the dots.

01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:42.239
Yeah, yeah, it's been a while, mate.

01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:44.079
But uh, I don't want to take up too much of your time.

01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:45.840
We know that you're on dad duties tonight.

01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:48.079
Has he alright young fellow gone to sleep?

01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:48.560
Is he still?

01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:50.399
Yeah, he finally is gone to bed.

01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:52.560
He's down, he's down, good, good.

01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:54.239
Appreciate you, bro.

01:09:54.399 --> 01:10:00.479
Appreciate brother taking the call, get some sleep, and get back to posting because we love your content.

01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:07.600
The listeners love your content, everyone loves your content because it's no filtered fucking real shit.

01:10:07.760 --> 01:10:09.279
None of this appreciate it, boys.

01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:10.079
Thank you for the call.

01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:10.800
Yep, appreciate it.

01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:12.000
Catch you, love you.

01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:13.039
Take it easy, boys.

01:10:13.119 --> 01:10:13.439
Much love.

01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:14.000
See you later.

01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:17.199
Big Chalk, big chock.

01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:18.800
He's a weapon, he's a weapon.

01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:23.439
One thing that Chalk just said that I think will summarize everything that we've talked about tonight.

01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:25.039
I want to tie it all together.

01:10:25.279 --> 01:10:30.640
First point is that at this point in time, the Taliban have said they don't want to prosecute anyone.

01:10:30.720 --> 01:10:31.680
They can't be fucked.

01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:34.159
They know what they did, they don't care what we did.

01:10:34.479 --> 01:10:40.880
The only people that we're appeasing right now by prosecuting Australian soldiers are the journalists.

01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:52.479
And the fact that they're all present at that uh arrest yesterday at the airport, teams and swarms of journalists from every network, the OSI and AFP are only trying to appease journalists.

01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:53.520
No one else.

01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:55.279
They're the only ones that still care.

01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:55.760
Why?

01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:56.399
Content.

01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:57.359
They're profiting off this.

01:10:57.680 --> 01:10:58.000
Of course, yeah.

01:10:58.159 --> 01:10:58.399
Of course.

01:10:58.479 --> 01:10:59.119
And everyone knows that.

01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:00.319
It doesn't need to be said.

01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:01.680
Disgusting.

01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:05.439
But here's here's a little funny one to hopefully wrap it up.

01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:06.000
Hmm.

01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:08.159
Zach just sorry, just quickly.

01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:09.920
Did I say filtered or unfiltered?

01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:11.039
It's running through my head right now.

01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:11.600
I don't know.

01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:12.960
I hope I said unfiltered.

01:11:13.119 --> 01:11:14.960
Because everything Chalk says is unfiltered.

01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:15.439
It is, yeah.

01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:16.159
It is unfiltered.

01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:21.520
So we're going to speak with a friend of ours very shortly, Zach Rolfe.

01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:26.479
Now, Zach Rolfe wiped the floor with his prosecutor.

01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:29.600
And his prosecutor was named was, I believe, Mark Strickland.

01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:32.159
Zach was found not guilty.

01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:35.920
Guess who the prosecutor is for Oliver Schules?

01:11:37.520 --> 01:11:39.199
Mark Strickland.

01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:44.319
Now, between losing the case to Zach Rolfe, Mr.

01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:47.680
Strickland represented a prison guard.

01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:49.359
And we love our prison guards.

01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:52.960
Shout out to all the boys helping IRS and slipping him Kit Kats under the right.

01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:54.319
100%, so you should.

01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:55.039
And so you should.

01:11:55.119 --> 01:11:55.600
He's a weapon.

01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:59.680
A lot of the prison guards in these security areas are ex-diggers.

01:11:59.920 --> 01:12:02.399
And uh they're looking after the boys, and so they should.

01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:04.479
Because we're on the right side of the law.

01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:15.600
In between Zach Rolf's case and Schulzey's murder trial, which is scheduled for the end of next year, which I believe firmly and wholeheartedly he will win.

01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:18.640
If you want to put that in your sports bet multi, chuck it in.

01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:20.079
He's gonna fucking dominate.

01:12:21.279 --> 01:12:21.680
100%.

01:12:22.079 --> 01:12:25.199
He he his case is completely different to Ben's.

01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:26.560
You've all seen a video.

01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:31.760
There's a lot more to it than that video, and he will be found not guilty if not acquitted.

01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:44.640
In between, Zach's troll, Schulze's troll, Mark Strickland represented a prison officer who shot a patient in the back running away from him at a hospital appointment, trying to escape.

01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:55.760
The justification used as to why the prison officer shot the prisoner in the back while running away unarmed as a civilian was he had to do it.

01:12:55.840 --> 01:12:57.119
He had no other choice.

01:12:57.279 --> 01:13:00.640
He was in genuine fear for the community, and words to that effect.

01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:03.119
Mark Strickland was his lawyer.

01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:05.439
Mark Strickland got him off.

01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:09.039
That prison officer is now free to go.

01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:10.000
Interesting.

01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:10.880
Not guilty.

01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:11.520
Interesting.

01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:27.039
Wouldn't it be funny if Shulzy just copied the exact words that Mark Strickland said in his defense of a prison officer who shot an innocent person unarmed in the back and got him off the charge?

01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:31.039
Isn't that similar to what Shulsey's defense may be?

01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:41.680
And you're choosing Mark Strickland, the crown prosecution is choosing the lawyer whose defense who just shot someone in the back running away unarmed, not a threat to anyone.

01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:43.920
Was it with self-defense?

01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:56.880
Now, picture that that dude in a hospital gown you were told was a suicide bomber and is in a corn wheat field with a lot of intelligence to say that he's going to blow you up if you get too close to him.

01:13:57.439 --> 01:13:59.279
Welcome to Schulze's case.

01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:00.720
Interesting.

01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:01.520
Interesting.

01:14:03.039 --> 01:14:03.600
Wow.

01:14:04.239 --> 01:14:08.880
Well, I guess as you said, that leads us on to giving the big Zach Rolfe.

01:14:09.119 --> 01:14:14.000
If you want to listen to actually speaking on that, Zach Rolfe's episode, episode 226.

01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:19.760
Listen to it because you'll get the full story of Zach's story as well, which is absolutely mental.

01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:21.600
Otherwise, head to Insta uh YouTube.

01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:22.479
It's on YouTube.

01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:25.119
1.1 million views.

01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:26.479
Wild.

01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:28.479
Demonetize straight away though.

01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:31.039
So I don't make a cent off it.

01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:36.159
And I don't make any any money off any of those YouTube videos because there's too much, too much this and that.

01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:38.239
But anyway, let's give Zach a call.

01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:42.159
Hopefully he answers.

01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:00.159
How are you doing?

01:15:00.399 --> 01:15:00.880
Zachary.

01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:01.600
How are you doing?

01:15:02.479 --> 01:15:03.039
Hey my boy.

01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:03.680
How are you doing?

01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:04.159
Good.

01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:04.960
How's your mum and dad?

01:15:05.039 --> 01:15:07.199
How's the Lint chocolates on the coffee table?

01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:08.880
Always here.

01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:09.840
Always here.

01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:25.199
Obviously, I spoke to you a little bit earlier and we were talking about uh you know, obviously the whole BRS um scenario, and uh, you know, we we know that you're close to him and the family and spent a bit of jacuzzi time.

01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:37.359
And um and basically I just want to get your thought, quick, your quick thoughts on, you know, obviously you've been through the ringer when it comes to, you know, I wouldn't say, yeah, you know, something similar.

01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:38.800
So make sure that's a good thing.

01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:42.239
Yeah, definitely like similar circumstances for sure.

01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:46.880
So yesterday, obviously, when it came out, I I was raging the whole day, just fuming.

01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:50.640
And there was no like thinking about what happened to me.

01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:54.239
It was just that knowledge of what he's going through in the similar circumstances.

01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:57.279
So I was raging all day yesterday about it.

01:15:57.520 --> 01:16:05.279
Um and for a majority, uh I think by that reason, probably the same as a lot of other people was how that the police conducted themselves with the arrest.

01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:13.039
Um and that the way that they did that is very telling for where their heads are, I I believe.

01:16:13.279 --> 01:16:50.560
Um, and you guys have probably already um gone through it a fair bit, but the fact that they arrested him in a basically they created a public spectacle of obviously tipped off the media, they've done it in front of his heart and his children, creating this traumatic spectacle for the media rather than arresting him by appointment or arresting him at his residence or on one of the routines that he does uh every single day that the police are aware of up in Queensland because they have him or have had him under surveillance, they did that spectacle.

01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:54.800
Um, so that kind of shows you where they're at.

01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:56.800
I'm sure you guys have talked about it.

01:16:57.119 --> 01:17:09.520
Um, and from my time going through a similar event, and I know that uh Ben I have a similar mindset, but the main concern will not be the outcome of the trial.

01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:11.600
The main concern is the family.

01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:17.680
So my main concern the whole time was I I wish I could have taken my family and put them you know on a two-year holiday.

01:17:17.920 --> 01:17:24.640
And then I could deal with that, the uh the court case, the trial, and they would be not even involved in it.

01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:32.640
But you can't do that, so uh them can handle this fight against CI in the court system.

01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:47.359
Um as rigged as sometimes it is, when you have$380 million, basically an unlimited pocket for the government and a seemingly uh notion of what they want to occur.

01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:55.279
Um it's a hard fight for Ben, but Ben can handle that, but he will obviously be extremely worried about his family.

01:17:55.359 --> 01:18:00.399
So what you and I were talking about obviously earlier is there's so many people in Australia that want to help.

01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:07.520
Um so what we were discussing, I guess if you want to, if you if you want, like we can chat real quick about that.

01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:13.760
Because obviously I'm super busy, so I I'll try to like be obviously be quick so we can chat about it.

01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:24.479
But what I know a lot of people want to set up the GoFundMe, and there's an issue with the GoFundMe, because obviously Channel 9 were tipped off by it seems the AFP about uh Dr.

01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:25.520
Sday.

01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:33.199
Uh Channel 9 seemed to be nearly allied with the AFP about this, and the media had a strong pull, especially with things like GoFundMe.

01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:40.800
So they can GoFundMe's can get pulled down uh fairly easily, even with even like regardless of the money, if it's being paid or not.

01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:45.199
So we're looking at doing a similar thing where because so many Australians are outraged.

01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:46.960
So many Australians want to help.

01:18:47.279 --> 01:18:51.760
We really want to help, I just want to do it right by uh Benny and by Benny's family.

01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:52.880
So we're doing it properly.

01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:57.520
Um we're looking in the background, discussing with them, and we really want to do it right and get their blessing.

01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:05.279
But we're looking at basically setting up a similar thing, like a GoFundMe, but through a trust that's completely safe, completely legal, can't get shut down.

01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:10.479
Um it's just gonna take a few days, uh maybe a bit longer, to get it done properly.

01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:17.760
Um but there we are looking at helping out Ben, uh, his legal costs and looking after his family.

01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:21.439
Um, because at the end of the day, like I know where he's at.

01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:24.239
He can handle the shit that's gone on with him.

01:19:24.479 --> 01:19:32.560
But he'll he won't like if he can know that Australia is gonna look after his family, then he'll he'll be good, you know?

01:19:32.800 --> 01:19:33.680
You know what I'm saying?

01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:34.720
Hundred percent.

01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:42.800
Your boy, and we know for a fact that there's hundreds of thousands, millions of Australians are gonna be backing this guy.

01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:44.960
And we've seen it throughout social media.

01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:57.119
The backlash exactly, the backlash from, you know, obviously the media putting out their stories and some of these influencers with their negative reviews on the whole scenario, they're getting absolutely smashed to smithereens.

01:19:57.680 --> 01:19:58.640
Yeah, exactly.

01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:12.239
And that's what I think, again, maybe the government have just misread the room, the police have misread the room, um, and they put on this uh nearly circus style spectacle arrest, thinking that people would be clapping for them.

01:20:12.399 --> 01:20:20.640
Um, but it really just shows a deeper uh it shows deeper what their what their thought process is.

01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:30.159
Um I've seen it happen before, like police arrest people in in public situations in order to try and humiliate them, to create a spectacle, to start painting a picture.

01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:43.279
Um so yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be messy, but we want to obviously the police um and the government and the RSI seem to have a limitless uh wallet.

01:20:43.760 --> 01:20:48.000
So we want to give them the right to a fair trial, like a truly, truly fair trial.

01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:55.039
Um I believe the the defense force have a little scheme set up where some uh cost might be paid for.

01:20:55.199 --> 01:20:55.520
Yep.

01:20:55.920 --> 01:20:59.920
But but it's uh I believe it's a grant process if you apply for the grant.

01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:07.279
Um and I don't believe that that will will cover nearly as much cost as is needed to get a fair trial.

01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:17.439
Um and as we've been called that, like there are like a large percentage of Australia and in international people want to support Ben.

01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:25.760
Um and like it it just takes a few of us that are willing to stick your next how we all are, um, and we'll get it done.

01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:27.359
It's just we've got to get it done probably.

01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:30.479
So we are looking at setting up something that everyone can help out.

01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:40.720
Um look after Ben, look after his family, and get him a fair trial and let him focus on the trial, knowing that like you know, we have his back and we're we're looking after him.

01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:42.399
So awesome.

01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:44.000
Just trying to get it done as fast as possible.

01:21:44.239 --> 01:21:44.800
Yeah, of course.

01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:48.399
And I'll keep everyone posted on uh that progress with that stuff.

01:21:48.479 --> 01:21:51.680
And once Zach's got it all sorted, we'll get it up.

01:21:51.760 --> 01:21:58.319
And as I said, I'm gonna obviously got the BRS shirt, so I'm gonna donate a portion of sales uh from each shirt to that.

01:21:58.399 --> 01:22:03.199
And uh let's hope we can get some hundreds of millions of dollars and obviously help out Schultz as well.

01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:04.479
Hundred percent.

01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:08.319
And yeah, that would be maybe if there's any left over, we can buy a bag.

01:22:16.960 --> 01:22:21.680
Brother, I appreciate you uh taking the call and uh we'll catch up soon.

01:22:21.760 --> 01:22:23.119
We'll we'll gotta catch up soon.

01:22:23.279 --> 01:22:25.439
Have a beer and probably soon.

01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:36.399
We got some more time, and yeah, definitely as soon as I can um can get this uh you know signed off by the family, make sure it's all co-shares for their wishes and uh get it signed off uh legally.

01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:51.680
We'll get it up as soon as possible and uh allow everyone to start providing that help that they actually do want to um provide rather than just the words because they're uh obviously there's some police standing up, uh having his back, but it's uh we need something that actually does some help.

01:22:51.840 --> 01:22:52.560
Yes, exactly.

01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:53.439
Exactly.

01:22:53.680 --> 01:22:56.079
We'll look at doing it and we'll us boys on the ground, we'll do it.

01:22:56.239 --> 01:22:56.800
All right, mate.

01:22:57.039 --> 01:22:58.960
Uh give your dad a kiss for me on the lips.

01:22:59.039 --> 01:23:00.399
Yeah, great work.

01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:01.359
Done.

01:23:02.159 --> 01:23:02.560
All right, lads.

01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:03.439
Oh, you have a good one.

01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:04.479
All right, brother, catcha.

01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:05.600
Bye bye, single.

01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:14.479
Oh, Zach made by a bad He's just he's living the life.

01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:30.960
He's and it's absolutely wild that you know the the shit he's been through, he's gonna stick his head back out in the public to support BRS in these these times that are again replicated to his, you know, similar to his stuff.

01:23:31.039 --> 01:23:31.199
Yeah.

01:23:31.359 --> 01:23:34.079
Like it's it's it's got some he's got some balls to do that.

01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:35.439
He does, he's a brave dude.

01:23:35.600 --> 01:23:36.960
He's proven it on many occasions.

01:23:37.199 --> 01:23:52.079
Zach Rolfe talking about a trust getting put in place, uh, just waiting for the family approval and blah blah blah to get it all across the line legally rather than doing a GoFundMe, because we know for a fact GoFundMe will probably get shut down and blah blah blah.

01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:56.399
It's just a it's a sh it is a good cause in some way, but things like this, not good.

01:23:56.560 --> 01:23:59.359
Probably best to do it in a trust because then it's gonna be protected.

01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:02.960
Uh so you know, certain people can't get at it.

01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:12.319
But yeah, well if if it's a lot of you diggers, you didn't deploy, you didn't get medals, and on Anzac Day, you might be wondering, what kind of suit am I gonna wear?

01:24:12.479 --> 01:24:25.600
My year 10 formal suit, my dad's old suit, purple, blue ones, chuck on a BRS shirt, hit up Maddie, get a BRS shirt, get a free Schulsey shirt, chuck that on, put your four-year gong on it, and waltz on down to the Dawn service.

01:24:25.760 --> 01:24:38.880
And if you see a member of the OSI or a journalist that is prominent, that hates our diggers and has been talking absolute garbage for the last couple of years, just fucking cast a spell on them, bro, boys.

01:24:39.039 --> 01:24:40.720
You know, non-violent acts.

01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:41.119
Yeah.

01:24:41.359 --> 01:24:42.560
We're not violent people.

01:24:42.720 --> 01:24:43.520
Cast a spell on them.

01:24:44.239 --> 01:24:50.880
Wish that they get cancer, hope that they get testicular cancer and die a slow death and uh a non-violent death.

01:24:51.039 --> 01:24:59.439
And uh just as they're on their last legs, weak from chemotherapy, they get hit by a bus in front of their own family in a non-violent way.

01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:00.880
We've got nothing to do with it.

01:25:01.439 --> 01:25:08.239
These are just things I've read I've been reading books about manifestation, and this is what I manifest in my spare time.

01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:09.840
Thank you, everyone.

01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:12.479
I reckon you should write a child's book.

01:25:14.479 --> 01:25:15.680
No, he's exactly right.

01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:20.239
Like if you are out there and you and Oh a Sarah, just like what are you doing?

01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:27.119
Like, I there's just I don't know, like it's fuck, there's some shit jobs in the world, but that's shit.

01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:30.159
And you're a you've got to be a shit human being to do that, too.

01:25:30.319 --> 01:25:31.680
You're a fucking hero, aren't you?

01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:33.039
Have a good hard look at yourself.

01:25:33.119 --> 01:25:37.760
Imagine telling your family and friends at Christmas dinner, this is what I did this year.

01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:43.039
I I did up the brief of evidence and I was at the airport and I I arrested Ben Robert Smith.

01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:46.560
Your dad's gonna smack you in the mouth so fucking hard.

01:25:46.800 --> 01:25:47.600
He'd be ashamed.

01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:49.039
He'd tell people he has no son.

01:25:49.199 --> 01:25:49.840
Yeah.

01:25:50.159 --> 01:25:51.119
It's disgraceful.

01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:51.920
Exactly.

01:25:52.079 --> 01:25:52.720
Yeah.

01:25:53.039 --> 01:25:53.680
Yeah.

01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:54.880
Anyway.

01:25:55.279 --> 01:26:01.520
Well, I guess we've uh generally gone over, definitely gone a bit of a croaky voice there.

01:26:01.680 --> 01:26:02.079
Jesus.

01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:05.039
Um we've definitely gone over BRS.

01:26:05.119 --> 01:26:05.760
Shout out to Hesto.

01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:06.560
BRS come.

01:26:06.800 --> 01:26:07.600
Isn't that coming out?

01:26:07.840 --> 01:26:08.640
New drink.

01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:15.680
Uh yeah, definitely gone over that one-hour general time period I do for a debrief.

01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:19.039
However, this is a special broadcast brought to you live.

01:26:19.279 --> 01:26:19.840
Emergency.

01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:21.840
Emergency emergency broadcast.

01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:25.119
Uh brought to you by pretty much Scott Jones, the whole ways.

01:26:25.359 --> 01:26:33.760
Gojo, Saint, thank you for doing that because again, a lot of that information is not loudly been put out there.

01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:39.600
And this is probably one of the this is the first time most of the information has been put together as well.

01:26:40.159 --> 01:26:50.640
Because what you've been getting told on the media has been this and a little bit of this, and a clipping from here and a clipping from that, and reporters making up bullshit as they do and paying hush money and yeah.

01:26:50.880 --> 01:26:53.439
And this is just the unclassified version that was in open court.

01:26:53.680 --> 01:26:54.000
Exactly right.

01:26:54.159 --> 01:26:55.520
Imagine what was in closed court.

01:26:55.680 --> 01:26:56.800
Ooh, yeah, interesting.

01:26:57.039 --> 01:26:57.600
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:26:57.680 --> 01:26:58.239
That'll come out.

01:26:58.399 --> 01:26:59.039
That has to.

01:26:59.199 --> 01:26:59.600
Yeah, it will.

01:26:59.840 --> 01:27:00.000
It will.

01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:01.600
Not from me, but it will.

01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:02.479
It will.

01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:03.920
Uh all right.

01:27:04.079 --> 01:27:07.359
Well, I guess let's just leave it there.

01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:08.560
Thanks, mate.

01:27:08.720 --> 01:27:10.720
Let's go have a coffee.

01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:13.359
Get your dad to send me a picture of his dick.